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Date:      Sun, 2 Dec 2018 00:43:31 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>,  "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: How to use trim command ?,Re: How to use trim command ?
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On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 12:03 AM Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
wrote:

> --------
> In message <
> CANCZdfrb0gWAhSUAVvs0pBjezWgh3c_kHjriknC02KZF+MVE9A@mail.gmail.com>,
> Warner Losh writes:
>
> >Erase has become super expensive with QLC nand. And many SSDs are trying
> to
> >use simpler, smaller data structures to implement its LUTs.
>
> They may not have a choice, there are patent-issues in this space.
>
> Still, I would avoid any SSD which has issues in this space for normal
> filesystem operations.
>

Good advice, if you can afford the more expensive NAND... Cost reduction
efforts have lead me to try to make such NAND suck less.

Warner



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