From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 25 13:07:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02946 for current-outgoing; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02711; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA06541; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:02:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199609252002.NAA06541@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Licensing Software To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:02:38 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, stesin@gu.net, ulf@Lamb.net, jhs@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org, serious@FreeBSD.org, commercial@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199609251927.MAA09117@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Sep 25, 96 12:27:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yea, so, I put a third box called a dummy router/NAT between them > and make them talk. Novell Netware servers can be fooled into > operating this way (thats how I do server to server upgrades of > Netware, just put a router between them and spoof a few things, > works great, and no inplace upgrade risk, and no need for a second > license.) All software soloutions *can* be spoofed. The Flex/LM spoof is trivial, and can be easily using a shell script with a sleep delay and a background job. Other than forcing the PC to be redesigned (in which case, I say getting rid of ISA entirely is a more worthy goal than installing serial numbers, since I can trap the memory references and lie about those too), there's really no fix. Yet Linux, SCO, Solaris, and UnixWare all have license manager software, and you guys insisting on ethnic purity inre: the network interface is succeeding in doing nothing other than making FreeBSD a less attractive commercial platform. Unless that's your ultimate goal, it seems pretty stupid to put forth arguments against instead of arguments for. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.