From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 15:04:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC83E1065693 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevlo@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ns.kevlo.org (kevlo.org [220.128.136.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874008FC0A for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (kevlo@kevlo.org [220.128.136.52]) by ns.kevlo.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oBNF4c66027914; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:04:40 +0800 (CST) From: Kevin Lo To: olli@lurza.secnetix.de In-Reply-To: <201012231149.oBNBnxmI019761@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <201012231149.oBNBnxmI019761@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:04:36 +0800 Message-ID: <1293116676.2258.9.camel@nsl> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add a dependency on xclock X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:04:48 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Kevin Lo wrote: > > Sometimes I only installed the xorg metaport x11/xorg on my FreeBSD. > > When I quit the X window, there's a message on the console: > > > > /usr/local/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc: xclock: not found > > > > I think it makes sense to add dependency on xclock, what do you think? > > There are dozens of different clocks in ports/x11-clocks. > I don't think it makes sense to install one of them by > default just because it's mentioned as an example in the > xinitrc template. If someone really wants the "classic" > xclock (I'm trying to avoid the word "ancient"), he can > install it himself. This should be a conscious decision, > not an automatism. > > In my opinion, the xorg meta port already installs many > things that most people never need. Personally, I have > stopped using the meta port and install only the parts > that I need. This is a little more work in the beginning, > but it saves time in the long run when keeping things up > to date. On my workstation, it cut down the number of > packages by about 200 (from 700 down to 500). You missed the point. Do you have any idea Why flz@ committed this patch ? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2009-January/163841.html > Best regards > Oliver > > PS: In fact I _did_ install the ancient xclock on purpose, > because it's leight-weight and it's a very good fit with > my window manager (olvwm). But I'm probably an exception > (proof for that is the fact that nobody cared to make xview > and olvwm 64bit-clean for amd64, so I still have to run > i386 on my workstation). Sorry, I digress ... Kevin