Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:11:59 -0400 From: Michael Rothenberg <rothenberg@automationonline.com> To: CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19991025131159.00757db4@slider> In-Reply-To: <A18002DDE56DD21184050008C7B1601401CADEF4@SNOHEX16.sarcom.c om>
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At 11:31 AM 10/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >You people are so far into this stuff that you don't know what "easy" means >anymore. I tried to install FreeBSD 3.3 last night. It was the most >difficult install I've ever seen. Problems? How would I know- I never knew >what it was doing. It installed, I just didn't know what. It is so geared I installed for the first time last night also and had little trouble. Am I a geek? Perhaps some might see me that way. But thats not really an issue. I am a UNIX newbie. I've used it before a few times, but thats about it. But I did about a months reading in prep for this install. Unless you are already a computer geek, I dont think you can assume that you can start right up instantly. FBSD is not really something one installs on a whim without researching it and preping for it. >towards unix experienced geeks that a person unfamiliar with Unix is totally >lost. Microsoftcopy sucks but they've got no competition from unix yet. No >one can understand it and unix people can't make it understandable. I >picked stuff from the menu, but the interface sucked so bad I wasn't sure >what I had installed. I was so pissed that I erased it. I chose FreeBSD >over Linux because it is supposed to be more stable, but only a hacker geek >can install this OS. I'll try Linux, maybe it will be more easily >understood. Greg Lehay's book was useless- it was so far up in geek land it >was amazing. Of course, what can you expect from a guy who speaks 3 >languages and went to school for chemistry, etc. He can't write beginner >books, that's for sure. Throughout the entire installation I found myself I dont hink its a beginner book. If you are a beginner then I dont even think FBSD is the right thing for you. You have to have a good grounding in computers and their technology if you ever expect to make it anywhere in FBSD and a positive go get it attitude to boot. This is not to say you cant learn it along the way, but the positive go get it attitude you have to have from the start. Hrmnn.. I followed the book line by line and everything worked close to what was supposed to happen. I did reread a lot of sections a few times, but over all I though it wasn't half bad. I could sugest a few places that need some expanding, but this is not the time or place. Had some trouble with the partitions/slices and getting thrown out of the install procedure (something about receiving a signal 11), but I just started over and it went well. >wondering how anybody figures this shit out. I'd appreciate any "PRACTICAL" >help as I do not want to give up on FreeBSD. > Read read read. Listen listen listen. read some more. This is not a spoon feeding OS, this is a hunter gathering type. You have to go out and learn what it all is about. Thats kind of the mystic that draws some to FBSD and UNIX in general. If you expect it all to be handed to you on a platter cooked and ready then I'm afraid you will be disapointed. If you cant find the answer after looking all over the place, then post here and see what happens. Give FBSD another shot. Be patient and follow greg's book as best you can. I did a basic install (no XFree cfiging and not net cfging) in a few hours. It went well. Next step is the x config. Have to read the chapter on it first so i'll wait till this weekend. >Sincerely, >-ChadK >chadk@freewwweb.com > > Purely my .02, -michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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