From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 12 09:47:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BC7D6F6; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10AAD785; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (cpc16-cmbg15-2-0-cust60.5-4.cable.virginm.net [86.5.162.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.15.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id t1C9l6w2019587 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:47:09 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: theravensnest.org: Host cpc16-cmbg15-2-0-cust60.5-4.cable.virginm.net [86.5.162.61] claimed to be [192.168.0.7] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Subject: Re: HEADS-UP: Enabling WITH_DEBUG_FILES by default From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <20150212044933.GK1302@hub.FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:47:00 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <06A0C6C3-0514-4A7C-A406-97542C71F1F6@FreeBSD.org> References: <20150212023912.GG1302@hub.FreeBSD.org> <1423713360.80968.89.camel@freebsd.org> <20150212041158.GH1302@hub.FreeBSD.org> <20150212044933.GK1302@hub.FreeBSD.org> To: Glen Barber X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Cc: FreeBSD Current , Ed Maste , Ian Lepore , Jia-Shiun Li X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:47:12 -0000 On 12 Feb 2015, at 04:49, Glen Barber wrote: >=20 > I would like to see it enabled by default for 11.0-RELEASE. For everyone concerned about size, remember that the goal for = 11.0-RELEASE is to use pkg for the base system, which makes it much = easier to: - Install some debug info later, on demand. - Split debug info into separate packages so only the relevant bits can = be installed when debugging a particular problem. I probably don't want debug info for everything to be installed on my = systems by default and upgraded all of the time, but I really do want to = be able to just run a single pkg ins command to get the symbols for = whatever it is that I'm experiencing problems with. David