From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 6 23:40:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A33162F; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.dlink.ua (smtp.dlink.ua [193.138.187.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D141F6; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 23:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rnote.ddteam.net (229-39-135-95.pool.ukrtel.net [95.135.39.229]) (Authenticated sender: ray) by smtp.dlink.ua (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2AF3C4946; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 01:40:38 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 01:40:21 +0200 From: Aleksandr Rybalko To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: GENERIC kernel issues Message-Id: <20130307014021.3c02fdb4.ray@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: <1362445777.1195.299.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <3DFABC9A-876A-4F34-9E15-E4C630D7B077@bsdimp.com> <1362542286.1291.94.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <4CF23AFE-DD69-40AA-ACFB-46F055F0AA3F@bsdimp.com> <1362594744.1291.132.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <20130306234004.bf113967.ray@freebsd.org> <4C0099FA-BBBE-4F93-8C97-CE5B79465829@bsdimp.com> <20130307005649.35a6b9ae.ray@freebsd.org> Organization: FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.2 (GTK+ 2.24.5; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, Ian Lepore X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the StrongARM Processor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:40:46 -0000 On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:16:02 -0800 Adrian Chadd wrote: > Peeps, > > If you make the boot process too complicated and it stops being "load > kernel via flash/NFS, boot" then people may just not bother. :-) > > I know you're going for correctness and we're hampered by how "linux > does things', but I really do suggest that you first get working, > packaged, easily installed and updated systems using what we currently > heave before you try to make a 'much nicer but noone ever uses it' > solution. > > Please don't fall down the trap of "over-engineering correctness that > noone will ever use." that software people do when they don't have > deliverables. > > 2c, > > > > Adrian Adrian, I hope you don't compile special kernel before first boot on every new laptop/desktop/server? :))) We want also find such drugs for so mach fancy ARM world, so anybody will have a way to boot board with one of few install images, but not one per board. Thanks! WBW -- Aleksandr Rybalko