From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 20 15:28:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87C11065674 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10108FC08 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5KFSkfJ001866; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:28:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q5KFSj7T001863; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:28:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:28:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Robbins In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <4FDF6586.9060501@gentoo.org> <4FDFB166.2040709@FreeBSD.org> <4FDFB44D.9090308@gentoo.org> <4FE0ADCD.9010109@FreeBSD.org> <4FE0C123.8030301@gentoo.org> <4FE0F773.1080403@gentoo.org> <4FE100F9.2050009@funtoo.org> <20120620073920.GA5300@lonesome.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:28:46 +0200 (CEST) Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:28:51 -0000 > Hi all, I wanted to jump in here. My name is Daniel Robbins and I'm > the creator of Gentoo Linux and the original designer of the Gentoo > initscripts, which now exist in rewritten form as OpenRC. FreeBSD > inspired many of the concepts in Gentoo Linux. > > I see a great potential for collaboration here between Gentoo, Funtoo > (my current project, a derivative/fork of Gentoo), FreeBSD and OpenRC > (which is now an independently-managed project, distinct from the > upstream distros) stripped list of CC recipient - got too large. > There has been some suggestion of a boot-time shoot-out, and it makes > perfect sense to me that the OpenRC team would need to demonstrate the > benefits of OpenRC first, before FreeBSD devs devote time to looking > at OpenRC. Whatever benefits are, and for sure they are think of this: 1) can it be compatible with 20000 ports already made for FreeBSD, where many of them install rc.d scripts in CURRENT format. 2) is the problem 1 worth of slight improvement over already good, but certainly not perfect rc.d subsystem. If someone would like to make new ports subsystem from scratch then it would be great. Would you like to ? ;) Certainly it will be great, as ports are certainly a mess, but it's "quite" a hell amount of work! lets assume someone working of port subsystem would prepare 3 well done ports per day average, then you need 20 people working for it for a year at least... when i would have million dollars handy call me and find these 20 people ;)