From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 12 1:14:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx3.datanet.hu (mx3.datanet.hu [194.149.13.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6620F37B400 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 01:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fonix.adamsfamily.xx (nilus-1053.adsl.datanet.hu [195.56.92.37]) by mx3.datanet.hu (DataNet) with ESMTP id 8513F1E9E0A; Sun, 12 May 2002 10:14:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fonix.adamsfamily.xx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fonix.adamsfamily.xx (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4C8EWIr008474; Sun, 12 May 2002 10:14:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: (from cc@localhost) by fonix.adamsfamily.xx (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4C8EVOw008466; Sun, 12 May 2002 10:14:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: fonix.adamsfamily.xx: cc set sender to sziszi@bsd.hu using -f Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 10:14:31 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: billn Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUP - Major Problems Message-ID: <20020512081430.GA613@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , billn , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <3CDD6DBF.1E48C1C6@yelmtel.com> <20020511194217.GA9465@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> <3CDDB88F.5DAD8D76@yelmtel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3CDDB88F.5DAD8D76@yelmtel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Bill! On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 05:34:23PM -0700, billn wrote: > I read the page at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cvsup.html OK, at least this is clear now. > What was missing was something as an overview such as: > > Here are where the CVSup files live > - /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/ - supfile and refuse > - /usr/local/bin/cvsup - the executable > > Here is what the files do: > Here is how you set them up: > Here is how you install cvsup if you don't have it: > Here is how you run a simple update to all ports files: > > Now add the details that are already in the file. > > Bill Nicholls So, if I understand you correctly, the issue is more of organisation than content. Of course, it could be added that (as a rule, although you can change this) cvsup lives in /usr/local/bin, and that (again, by default, but not surely in your case) /usr/local/bin is not in your PATH, but other than that, I think that the sections you list above are already tere. Maybe, they re not written in step-by-step style, but rather as continous text. Maybe, an article (in how-to style) could help with this. Although I have a few reservations. Cvsup is not to be used by absolute beginners, IMO. I do realise that there is no good way to update your ports collection without it, but absolute beginners, (because I do consider someone who does not know about PATH and how to set it, an absolute beginner, even DOS and Win9x have it and you had to routinely set it in autoexec.bat) should probably use the packages and sysinstall. Not to mention the fact that, at present, there is no good way to use the packages or the ports eg across release upgrades unless you already know your way around. (and also, I'll go on record saying that Linux is no better unless you do the equivalent of a full binary reinstall) I am passing your message and my thoughts along to the list so that other people can see it and add what they've got. -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szombathely Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message