From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 20 11:57:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDE0106564A for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:57:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F09E8FC13 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-180-180.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.180.180]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE993CA48; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:57:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p5KBveH9001728; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:57:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:57:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bill Tillman Message-Id: <20110620135740.f75d4c00.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <179528.87578.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4DFCDE25.2050203@rawbw.com> <20110618180326.GA21890@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4DFD01B9.5010807@rawbw.com> <20110618212315.GB21890@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20110619072518.2115dffb@scorpio> <20110619112248.7c879c1f@scorpio> <179528.87578.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:57:43 -0000 Thanks for coming back on-topic. :-) On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:42:51 -0700 (PDT), Bill Tillman wrote: > The main reason is that hackers in this world have=20 > caused all of us to in one way or another deploy firewalls. And I would s= ay that=20 > 99% of the non-hobbyists out there don't have a clue how to configure the= ir=20 > firewall, indeed many of them don't even know they have one working. Whet= her=20 > it's M$ built-in firewall or the firewall on their ISP supplied router/mo= dem, or=20 > the hotel they are staying at is blocking SIP ports. Unless you can get t= he=20 > person on the other end to receive your phone call then very little works= . Which=20 > is a real shame because as a hobbyist I have done some really neat things= with=20 > SIP phones, Asterisk, not to mention VPN and other packages. But without = another=20 > hobbyist on the other end, its proved more than impossible to get things = working=20 > which I could really use on a daily basis. I think another problem worth mentioning is that ISPs also tend to control what you're doing with your Internet connection. Some of them block using POP/SMTP/IMAP, "encouraging" you to use their service, and some of them will surely also do the same to SIP related activities, as they also provide a phone service you "should" use. And if you're starting to put everything into a secure tunnel (SSH or the like)... well... you must be an evil-doer. :-) See "net neutrality" as a related term. > Oh and just in case...I use Asterisk on FreeBSD-8.2-STABLE as my PBX for = my=20 > private=A0home office. I connect via SIP with a VOIP provider who provide= s not=20 > only phone service but a DID as well. I use SIP phones (actual phones, no= t=20 > software) to make my SOHO appear to be a=A0professional corporate office = with=20 > transfers, conference calls, Music on hold, voice mail, the works. That would be a suggestion I would _always_ give when a PBX is required, and it's really nice for business as you don't have to administrate two nets (computer network, phone network). On the other hand, I'm still searching for a solution to make "PC + phone" workstations built from PCs, and later on, from Thin Clients, so you have both functionalities in one device. This is good for the environment (less power consumption), and it's also good because it needs less administration time. On the other hand, it allows flexibility and easy use. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...