From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Nov 11 21:34:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09226 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:34:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09206 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:34:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06839; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:34:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01986; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:34:18 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:34:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711120534.WAA01986@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jonathan Chen Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newest Pentium bug (fatal) In-Reply-To: References: <199711111935.MAA17390@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > There are also things that are completely beyond the realm of scientific > > understanding as well, that cannot be 'explained away'. For example, a > > recent "scientific" study on 'prayer' was given. There were two groups > > of 'ill/sick' patients, one the control group, the other group needs > > were given to a group of people who had no contact with the group, and > > the results were astonishing. The people who were prayed for had a > > significant better recovery rate than the control group, yet there was > > absolutely no contact between any of the members in the entire > > 'experiment'. How do you explain that? Bad testing, not a big enough > > experiment group, co-incidence, etc...? Not everything can be explained > > by scientific reasoning, hence the need for 'FAITH'. > > This is more probably due to increased recovery rates due to meditative > states induced by `prayer-mode' rather than any divine intervention. Umm, the people who got better weren't praying, they were being prayed for, and by people whom they had no contact with. Nate