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Date:      Sun, 19 Aug 2001 13:14:56 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mario Doria <mariodoria@yahoo.com>
Cc:        Sean Davis <dive-fb@endersgame.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: microuptime() oddness
Message-ID:  <20010819131455.D35750@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010819034229.47195.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com>; from mariodoria@yahoo.com on Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 08:42:29PM -0700
References:  <20010819130006.C35750@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010819034229.47195.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com>

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On Saturday, 18 August 2001 at 20:42:29 -0700, Mario Doria wrote:
>
> --- Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>> On Monday, 13 August 2001 at  3:25:37 -0400, Sean Davis wrote:
>>> Hello, I have a machine (AMD Athlon 1.2ghz, 256MB ram) running
>>> FreeBSD-stable, and have been noticing a lot of weird kernel debug
>>> messages like:
>>>
>>> microuptime() went backwards (7718.041075 -> 7718.-695325418)
>>> calcru: negative time of -1984433927 usec for pid 365 (setiathome)
>>> <repeat many, many times>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any idea whats causing this?
>>
>> It's a bug which seems to be triggered by something to do with AMD
>> processors, though we're not sure whether it's the processor or
>> (more likely) the BIOS.  If you disable APM, it should go away.  I
>> have four AMD processors here, and they all showed it with APM
>> enabled.
>
> I got the same results on a Celeron @ 500MHZ on a ThinkPad A20m Laptop.
> I had installed XFree86-4.1 and KDE2. When I was changing my default
> fixed width font, XFree would crash and I would be back at the console
> with lots of messages like "microuptime went backwards" and then how
> much it went backwards. This happened also with XFree 4.0.3 and on two
> fresh installs. I don't remember if it had apm enabled, I think it did.
>
> Sorry I cannot give more details, but that machine right now is with
> IBM because of hard disk problems.

Hmm.  Interesting.  I have a ThinkPad T22, and I haven't had problems
with it.  Has anybody else had problems of this nature with ThinkPads?
It's a relatively serious issue with laptops, since you probably want
to use APM.

Greg
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