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Date:      Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:53:20 -0700
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com>
Cc:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>, "Sergey A. Osokin" <osa@FreeBSD.org>, Bartek Rutkowski <robak@FreeBSD.org>, Adam Weinberger <adamw@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r442588 - in head/www: nginx nginx-full
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From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To: Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com>
Cc: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>,
 "Sergey A. Osokin" <osa@FreeBSD.org>, Bartek Rutkowski <robak@FreeBSD.org>,
 Adam Weinberger <adamw@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org,
 svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r442588 - in head/www: nginx nginx-full
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On 6/17/2017 3:44 PM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>> On 6/6/17 5:39 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>>> It seems that everyone bumps port revisions whenever they please=20
>>> these days;
>=20
> I can confirm I am neither doing nor omitting PORTREVISION bumps=20
> lightheartedly, Alexey. :-}
>=20
>>> Just an exampler: r442562, where it was bumped for pkg-descr change=20
>>> (sic!) in a port that takes considerable time to build. :-(
>> pkg-descr is part of the generated package. Bumping PORTREVISION in th=
at
>> commit had a real impact and change.  Plus the actual content change i=
s
>> not a small spelling change.
>=20
> Thanks, Bryan!
>=20
>> It's explaining something to users about the proper use of the port an=
d
>> how to obtain the right package for the right environment.
>>
>> Yes it hurts to rebuild a port for something like this, but it is
>> absolutely correct.
>=20
> I find bumping (or not) PORTREVISION actually a bit tricky.
>=20
> While I believe the case above is one where this is the right thing,
> I have been skipping it for other cases where technically a bump would =

> be required. =20
>=20
> Consider revision 443791:
>=20
> Index: gcc5/pkg-descr
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> -WWW: http://gcc.gnu.org/
> +WWW: https://gcc.gnu.org
>=20
> Since both the old and new URLs work just perfectly fine, and the
> former only redirects to the latter, and given that lang/gcc* are
> somewhat heavier ports, in this case I opted not to do the bump.

Right good judgement should be used of course.  It's just not
black-and-white.

>=20
> Strictly speaking, however, it still would be applicable and when
> I don't do it always kind of wait for someone to complain.  Of course,
> when I then do bump in a stronger case, someone complains, too.  I=20
> guess you cannot win (until we have stronger tooling as Bryan hinted
> at). ;-)
>=20
> Gerald
>=20


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Regards,
Bryan Drewery


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