From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 16 06:50:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768F616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:50:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B049443D2D for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:50:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lars.tunkrans@bredband.net) Received: from [192.168.245.231] ([213.112.167.192] [213.112.167.192]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20050216065014.CXMB17717.mxfep01.bredband.com@[192.168.245.231]> for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:50:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4212EC72.4030505@bredband.net> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:47:14 +0100 From: Lars Tunkrans Organization: None User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041024 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <20050208193338.6ee460d9.mark@hyow.eu.org> <20050215113649.7bfcb1cd.mark@hyow.eu.org> <20050215180011.GD38158@dragon.nuxi.com> <4212868E.8080005@transactionware.com> <20050215235358.GC96584@dragon.nuxi.com> <42129E66.5090903@transactionware.com> <2fd864e050215181374d2e2b1@mail.gmail.com> <20050216032425.GB2966@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20050216032425.GB2966@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: NVidia chipsets (was Re: Any experience with "AsusA8N-SLi"or"Gigabyte K8NXP-SLI" mobos?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 06:50:17 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 08:13:30PM -0600, Astrodog wrote: > >>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:14:14 +1100, Jan Mikkelsen >> wrote: >> >>I'm not sure anyone but AMD makes SMP-capible chipsets for Opteron. > > Note that the HP dual-processor workstation doesn't use the AMD chipset, > yet is MP. (Opteron's also aren't SMP, but are a NUMA architecture) > NUMA is the opposite of UMA ( Uniform Memory Architecture) not the opposite of SMP. I see SMP as an oppsite of GRID-clusters like Beowulf. These days a NUMA architecture is radically faster than a UMA architecture ( like INTEL PC's ) because the time to transfer data to/from RAM is 50 NS on an Opteron board compared to 90 NS on an Pentium/frontside-bus board. Anyone, 10 years ago, saying that NUMA is faster than UMA would have been looked at as out of his mind. //Lars