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Date:      Wed, 12 May 1999 10:47:10 -0400 (EDT)
From:      podlipec@baynetworks.com (Mark Podlipec)
To:        luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo)
Cc:        eischen@vigrid.com (Daniel Eischen), jkh@freebsd.org, faber@isi.edu, jabley@clear.co.nz, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD native xanim (was Re: Native Applixware for FreeBSD -- When? )
Message-ID:  <199905121447.KAA20102@pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM>
In-Reply-To: <199905112036.WAA18507@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from "Luigi Rizzo" at May 11, 1999 10:36:36 PM

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Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> 
> [I am Bcc-ing Mark Podlipec since he might give us some input -- Mark,
> we were discussing about FreeBSD versions of the DLL's]
> 
> > > but the xanim author won't go that route.  See
> > > http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/xa_dlls.html .  The short form is that the
> > > NDA he's under (or at least his interpretation thereof) won't let him
> > > upload to an account and compile there.
> > 
> > Why not have someone with a Linux box build a Linux->FreeBSD cross
> > compiler for the xanim author.  I did this a couple of years ago
> 
> i think the necessary hardware would cost $1000 or less, and FreeBSD,Inc
> has some funds for this thipe of things i suppose. It is just a
> matter of deciding whether this is something worthwhile doing, and
> seeing if mark podlipec (Xanim's author) can handle cash or he
> needs a preinstalled machine shipped to him.

I'd really rather have the cross-compilers. One for ELF and one for
the older freebsd object file format(A.OUT?). That way every time
I make a change I can just type "make freebsdELF" and "make freebsd"
right afterwards.

The problem with a separate machine(or OS partition) is the time it 
takes to setup and maintain and more importantly having to transfer
the correct sources across to it and then transfer the compiled module 
back from it every time something changes.  It doesn't sound like 
much but it really eats up the time. Especially given the number 
of different systems I'll have to support.

Someone has attempted to send me a FreeBSD ELF cross-compiler
but it was missing a section due to tar archiving a link and
not the directory the link pointed to.  They will be sending
me the missing part soon, hopefully.

I did have a freebsd cross-compiler for a sunos 4.x system but
it didn't have enough to do the DLLs and beside my sunos 4.x
system is going away in a week or so.

The cross-compiler should be for a linux x86 glib 2.x system(since
I don't have easy access to a libc 5.0 system).

Mark


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