From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Oct 25 21:21:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00483 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:21:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00476 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA00694; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:20:18 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19981026162015.58679@welearn.com.au> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:20:15 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.performance-computing.com/features/9810of1.shtml References: <4.1.0.67.19981024114643.00a63ad0@genesis.ispace.com> <4.1.19981025233819.00a458a0@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981025233819.00a458a0@genesis.ispace.com>; from Drew Baxter on Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 11:41:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 11:41:51PM -0500, Drew Baxter wrote: > I'm not saying it like that. > > I'm saying that's where Linux teen kiddies come in. Besides, some attacks > have diagnostic value. While I just got a hardware firewall (and I already > hate it, I got locked out of my network across the weekend) that claims to > block certain types of attacks, I may want to check just to see if it > supports 'newer' ones. > > Don't forget, most exploits are posted to databases (i.e. bugtraq) as soon > as they are discovered. > > By the way, Smurf (as well as others) don't compile on FreeBSD because of a > lack of certain header files that Linux has. If I recall many of them are > in netinet/... > > Also, this is an example. There are some intuitive Linux programs that > can't compile for the same reason. Sure, people should port, but I'm not > one to fix 250 various compile errors (of which could be linked to one line > of code, but still) if I don't have to. So as it goes, I'm forced to have > a Linux box, a Solaris X86 box, and a FreeBSD box. Of course, I like my > FreeBSD box most of all, because of how long i've been using FreeBSD. > > At 09:21 PM 10/25/98 -0500, Pat Lynch wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > >personally, good, it "can't compile smurf.c" smurf is a network attack, > >not a useful tool. > > > >personally FreeBSD doesn;t need that kind of "support" if a script kiddy > >isn;t smart enough to make it compile, then thats great. > > > >- -P > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > >Pat Lynch lynch@rush.net > >Systems Administrator Rush Networking > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > >On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Drew Baxter wrote: > > > >> Nice article, definitely.. I especially liked the choice of graphic art, > >> and the remark about Grandma's lung machine.. :) > >> > >> I guess the big thing is, the little teenies playing "elite hacker" isn't > >> going to care about the whole GPL thing. It'd be kinda cool to see the > >> ability to compile for any OS (ultimate compatibility) so you could tell > >> FreeBSD "Well this compiled on Solaris.." and set a flag.. The word on the > >> teen street is "FreeBSD can't compile smurf.c".. > >> > >> I guess a clean-cut userbase is a little better than ones that want to > >> wreck stuff, but at the same time it's a +1 on the Linux side of things.. I > >> installed RHS for a week and immediately killed the box, as it goes I'm > >> playing with Solaris x86 (cost me 10 bucks, no args here) and I am still > >> rather distraught of its lack of a C compiler, gzip, etc. so that one is > >> clearly going out the door as well.. > >> > >> --- > >> Drew "Droobie" Baxter > >> Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) > >> OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 > >> http://www.droo.orland.me.us > >> My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT > >1998 > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > >> > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Version: 2.6.2 > > > >iQCVAwUBNjPcp8Gd9jPuKvqVAQHdbgQAtQdpwjDLL2ThzmL/vUmZOTfQ8amOvfuh > >FGSqSYpukOqXk/me3UspxnX8SCF3WCJrPnXzghp6GFfM2VoEVK/Qj+B/aBqQsOVL > >jhvi+pI7kEz1zjrtx4+5Fx6N7zA7cqcj+5LVpfHW6JvNHHvzoKQZF1/OHqHKta+W > >KZFTPZb8WDM= > >=Afs6 > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > > --- > Drew "Droobie" Baxter > Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) > OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 > http://www.droo.orland.me.us > My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message ?nwod edispu ffuts siht daer syug uoy od woH -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message