From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 3 01:04:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D6E16B9BF; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 01:03:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23D844DC0; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:56:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ps@mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D604F5DA8B; Sat, 2 Jul 2005 17:07:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ps@mu.org Delivered-To: ps@mu.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BB95C9ED for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FB355887; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:17:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C1116A4D7; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:17:47 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE53E16A4CE; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:17:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp4.server.rpi.edu (smtp4.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FDB43D45; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:17:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp4.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i9KHHhxQ029126; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:17:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <41767CF1.2020005@FreeBSD.org> References: <41767CF1.2020005@FreeBSD.org> To: Maxim Sobolev , From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on elvis.mu.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: What do people think about not installing a stripped /kernel?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:04:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:17:44 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 01:04:24 -0000 At 5:57 PM +0300 10/20/04, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >I think that this is good idea which can be adapted for our >6-CURRENT as well. Disk space is so damn cheap today.... I think it makes sense to do this as the default behavior, and then support the stripped-down kernel as the optional behavior. There are always going to be some users who need the smallest kernel possible, but those people are already making a custom kernel so it is fine (IMO) if they also need to customize the kernel to obtain a stripped kernel. But the people who are happily running with a generic kernel will be better off if they have all that debug information readily available if any problem does come up. Right now we always waste one "debug cycle" when someone gets a core dump, only to realize that they can't do anything with it because their kernel has no symbol information. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"