Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:12:58 +1100 From: jonathan michaels <jon@caamora.com.au> To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Regarding Promoting KDE - Wait, why not GNUstep? Message-ID: <19990202191258.G10808@caamora.com.au> In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.05.9902021632300.25770-100000@bragg>; from Kris Kennaway on Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 04:52:18PM %2B1030 References: <36B69584.F80FA433@mediaone.net> <Pine.OSF.4.05.9902021632300.25770-100000@bragg>
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On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 04:52:18PM +1030, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Joey Garcia wrote: > > > Okay, so KDE might be easy to use for newbies coming from Window > > 95/98/NT because it sort of looks alike, but why add an enviroment that > > slows down the system? I used to use KDE as my main window manager and > > enviromnet, but I have since then switched to Window Maker which seems > > to be a nice setup because of it's small memory usage and it's slick > > looks. > > I don't like or use KDE, because I consider myself a "power user" with enough i'm just a survivor .. > technical skill to not need a WM which buries everything behind a GUI (and > includes things I don't need). However, this is precisely what (a large > percentage of) UNIX/FreeBSD newcomers _do_ need. You and I may never make use because of circumstance beyound my imediate control i'm still more or less a 'newcommer' after several years of trying .. i'm getting thier, slowly. ok, to say what i wanted to say, i've seen a lot a 'talk' go on about this ide/gui new user friendly front end. from my own experiences and those of several other 'new users', who have gon on to become 'old hands', i would challange this notion. what is really needed is a tutorial system, a docbook project (nik, grin) a way of getting the relevant information into the hands of the users in a readily digestable manner. no amoount of gui'ing is going to replace this fundamental fact of life. to those who think that i'm barking up the wrong telephon pole . take a look at the microsoft environment. by microsofts own admission ms win 95 is the gateway to ms win nt .. but look att eh number that start on '95 and stay thier. this is how it works .. anyone saying otherwise is sadly mistaken. even in a pristine environment such as 'unix' this axiom holds up. sure soe will migrate from teh read email and news and file mangle with and X file mangler, but the majority will replace one desktop with another and this is not what i see as growth, neohter do several other voices that garner a littl emor respect than mine. > You're missing the point. This isn't about which WM is cleanest, smallest, > fastest, or "best" (if there is such a thing). Sure, KDE may be big and/or > bloated, and WindowMaker + a dozen other things can do the same thing as > the KDE distributions, but the point is it's signficantly more complicated to > either a) set up into a seamless whole for Joe Newbie to instantly be able to > start using, or b) too disjointed for Mr. Newbie to use without a steep > learning curve. well thats this tuppnce hapnny worth regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia ===========================================================<jon@caamora.com.au> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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