From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 24 17:49:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDEFB14C43 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:49:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (qmail 14569 invoked from network); 24 Feb 1999 03:34:23 -0000 Received: from dyson.iquest.net (198.70.144.127) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 24 Feb 1999 03:34:23 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA12374; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:34:16 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199902240334.WAA12374@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: The GPL and the Robinson-Patman Act In-Reply-To: <19990224022856.5B1E046381@pobox.com> from Jon Hamilton at "Feb 23, 99 08:28:56 pm" To: hamilton@pobox.com (Jon Hamilton) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:34:16 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@iquest.net, marko@uk.radan.com, tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > In message <199902240159.UAA04909@y.dyson.net>, "John S. Dyson" wrote: > } Jon Hamilton said: > } > > } > > } > From the FSF perspective, _free_ refers to freedom, not to price. > } > > } > } presume their funds come from donations from the likes of Red Hat, > } > } Cygnus etc.? > } > > } > They also sell documentation, source tapes, consulting, and take > } > donations. > > } I want the freedom to have a free copy of their documentation, source > } tapes and consulting... > > I want lots of things, but that doesn't mean that I can demand that > people give them to me free. > > You chopped off the bit where Mark wrote that it sounded like a contradiction > for an enterprise representing *free* software to have lots of money. > All I'm saying is that when they say *free* they don't mean price. > While I disagree with their agenda, I do think it's important to at least > try to accurately represent it rather than spreading inaccurate information. > I was merely trying to correct what appeared to be a misinterpretation. > I guess what I was trying to say is that it would improve dissemination of information and improve freedom. I mean, all we would be doing is creating servitude for a few, to educate alot of people. :-). The sum total of freedom would be tremendously increased. (This was meant to be a humorous commentary on those who believe in the notion of social engineering, an example of such would be GPL and the GNU manifesto.) John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message