From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 27 05:47:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3835B16A4CE for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lilith.bellavista.cz (bellavista.worldonline.cz [212.90.245.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA0C43FE1 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 05:47:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3641428; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:47:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD7C92FDA01; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:47:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:47:40 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Allan Bowhill Message-ID: <20031127134740.GV340@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Allan Bowhill References: <20031027214510.GA52000@kosmos.mynet> <20031027223648.GC1004@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <20031028000708.GA52155@kosmos.mynet> <20031028004319.GF1004@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <20031125072702.GG340@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20031125064404.GA38625@kosmos.my.net> <20031125193010.GB67289@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20031125094426.GA39119@kosmos.my.net> <20031126103714.GT340@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20031126083957.GA56061@kosmos.my.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031126083957.GA56061@kosmos.my.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Bug in ports howto question X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:47:47 -0000 # abowhill@blarg.net / 2003-11-26 00:39:57 -0800: > On 0, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > :# abowhill@blarg.net / 2003-11-25 01:44:26 -0800: > :> On 0, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > : > : strange date :) > > Is that the time stamp from mail I'm sending out? apparently. > :> Unfortunately, unlike other platforms, to send and receive mail on > :> FreeBSD, you need to a little about how mail works. I did not know a > :> lot in this area, before I started. > : > : Unfortunately? I don't agree with your assessment of the fact, but > : that's just me. > > It's not unfortunate to know, it's just unfortunate to have to learn > under pressured circumstances. It would have been nice if it worked the > first time :) hm, sysinstall could probably ask for an IP of your smarthost, and configure sendmail accordingly. > :> After learning a bit, I am left with the impression that internet > :> mechanisms and standards that support mail are complicated and > :> somewhat badly-designed. Evolutionary. (too many specialized > :> protocols, headers, acronyms) > :> > :> Despite all this, the configuration task is not that bad if you have > :> good instructions, but in principle, is overkill for submitting > :> ports. It's a little like trying to do square-foot gardening with a > :> combine. But if you have the time and documentation, you can get it > :> to work properly. > : > : Do you say port submission should be taken out using a separate > : mechanism? > > If you mean that ports should be accepted by some other mechanism? > > Yes, definitely. I disagree. There's already an establish channel for patch submissions, why duplicate efforts? > I think there could be a mini-cvs utility, just with a few features > defined to allow new ports to be submitted to a different repository, > separate from ports (which is already . branch). > > I also think it would be cool if there were a freebsd third-party > developer portal that kept this repository, accounts etc. like > SourceForge, but for ports. Maybe call it PortsForge :) > > That way, maintainers and new contributors could keep an open source > base of stuff they committed to the portal, while committers could > peruse the portal for new software to carry-over to the ports collection. this has been discussed on this list, started, and announced here during the last two weeks. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html