From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 29 23:07:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C67D16A40A for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: from dansknet.dk (smtp1.dansknet.dk [85.233.229.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81CD513C4C4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: (qmail 17794 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2007 22:58:12 -0000 Received: from 85233228239.switch.dansknet.dk (HELO dansknet.dk) (85.233.228.239) by dansknet.dk with SMTP; 29 Mar 2007 22:58:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:46:34 +0200 From: Rico Secada To: ports@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070329234634.c12b803b.coolzone@io.dk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Time to kill FreeBSD as a Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:07:33 -0000 Hi All. I have been using FreeBSD as a desktop system, on serveral computers for about one and a half year now. I truly love FreeBSD! But keeping third party ports/packages updated is just to timeconsuming IMHO. Building everything from ports is ok, on a quick machine, but even on a quick machine building KDE takes a LOT of time. Waiting until the stable packages are ready takes about 2 - 3 weeks, and until then, a lot of other stuff needs to be updated. Compared to Debian GNU/Linux's "apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade" command, OR OpenBSD's "pkg-add -u" >From OpenBSD's man page for "pkg_add": -u Update the given pkgname(s), and anything it depends upon. If no pkgname is given, pkg_add will update all installed packages. This relies on PKG_PATH to figure out the new package names. I really think it is time for FreeBSD to make it more easy to update binary packages, like on OpenBSD. Best and kind regards, Rico