From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 14 22:19:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D9A36BB; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-x235.google.com (mail-pd0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA9D5E2B; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by pdbki1 with SMTP id ki1so58756807pdb.1; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:19:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FrXPoZzW2la4y7ZfXA5hlmdRA+O8QOTynodnKinGfXA=; b=IL809YbVViyNTQ8OSLZE5YfTmOiLnHepqiOrZ3bfHaJrRgJWibPoj4Neyz+4cDoJ5l qbWLqfcGE0tkbVTroTzK3sD/iHOwdr7hwxAumMhoNgCgovAwhvOnzatpBaZC3O8/s4a/ IoxvCIDPKtgk7nV9v4nRaQ8FRyfLzaHxd2CI5zez4+jUt4DHiI5RnYZx8Jd2GvzzOiX6 +Sz/hDJC+y/4civwNEQ5yCZgXXoecNK+54ZSQP3oibzICDL2z7otuBa8M91+0bnmfHnj iWD+EjvYy29aikRclODfN1zmnia0Afu4BkZCBI8rVI8ivnJ6ZnyUhAKpN4lA6chIHFzR h/vw== X-Received: by 10.70.135.129 with SMTP id ps1mr41951944pdb.110.1434320373512; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:8:ab80:7d6:4c2d:ef81:af53:9183? ([2601:8:ab80:7d6:4c2d:ef81:af53:9183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ss3sm10147943pab.43.2015.06.14.15.19.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: svn commit: r284345 - in head: . bin/cat bin/chflags bin/chio bin/chmod bin/cp bin/csh bin/date bin/dd bin/df bin/domainname bin/echo bin/ed bin/expr bin/freebsd-version bin/getfacl bin/hostname bi... From: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12F70) In-Reply-To: <4710.1434319205@chaos> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:19:31 -0700 Cc: Craig Rodrigues , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , Baptiste Daroussin Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1851AC51-AAA2-42B1-A184-83CAB23ACFDC@gmail.com> References: <201506131920.t5DJKwMH033508@svn.freebsd.org> <950C4B23-B625-4173-A7C4-A4F1B2C5771D@gmail.com> <306889B5-3417-467C-965F-B011866E6F15@gmail.com> <450D8D9A-CBF2-445A-8221-4CD353591549@gmail.com> <16996.1434316874@chaos> <094A5FA6-7DB8-485E-84A8-C15D2A0BC9F6@gmail.com> <4710.1434319205@chaos> To: "Simon J. Gerraty" X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:19:34 -0000 > On Jun 14, 2015, at 15:00, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: >=20 > Garrett Cooper wrote: >=20 >> Breaking source upgrades to later versions is painful. We want to make >> sure fmake at least works with upgrade_checks so people can upgrade >> from earlier versions of 8/9/10 to 11 without having to deal with a >> lot of pain. >=20 > I agree but 8 -> 11 is a very big jump. Yes. BOOTSTRAPPING in Makefile.inc1 implies that. Let's try and honor that a= s best possible.=