From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Apr 6 01:54:35 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873815CD787 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 01:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from orthanc.ca (orthanc.ca [208.79.93.154]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "orthanc.ca", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FDrDp46rGz4ZST for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 01:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ca) Received: from orthanc.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ca (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d03e857d; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 18:54:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)" To: "Feldman, JamesX Michael" cc: Roger Leigh , freebsd-stable stable Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? In-reply-to: References: <425D60FC-3A9A-4DFA-B793-13B821AFDA7D@codelibre.net> Comments: In-reply-to "Feldman, JamesX Michael" message dated "Mon, 05 Apr 2021 18:51:25 -0000." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <30313.1617674072.1@orthanc.ca> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 18:54:32 -0700 Message-ID: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FDrDp46rGz4ZST X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lyndon@orthanc.ca designates 208.79.93.154 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lyndon@orthanc.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[208.79.93.154:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.79.93.154:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[orthanc.ca]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.999]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[208.79.93.154:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:208.79.88.0/21, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 01:54:35 -0000 Don't forget that Telnet is an actual protocol, which telnet(1) implements. nc is (for the most part) just a byte-copying middleman. There's still gear out there that speaks Telnet, and expects the client to support it (primarily for things like line mode editing). --lyndon