From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 09:34:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5A016A41F for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:34:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FFC43D86 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:33:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id jBQ9atP75481; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Yance Kowara" , Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 01:33:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20051224140859.54815.qmail@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:34:01 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Yance Kowara >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 6:09 AM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections > > >> Ted, you have to think outside the box. Life is >> more than one connection. While you can't >> increase the throughput of a single connection, >> you can increase the throughput of your network, >> which is usually the point. "Throughput" in this >> context is "capacity". Throughput is not only >> what you can "get" on a download; its the sum >> total of all of your activites. >> >> You "can" upload at 2Mb/s on one connection if >> you balance your outbound traffic, but not >> download, because while you can control where >> outgoing packets are sent, you can't control >> over which pipe incoming traffic arrives. >> >> Believe me, ted. It works. Its not "theory". Its >> being done. For example a hosting ISP saturates >> its pipes outgoing and has very little traffic >> incoming. They can load balance in the outgoing >> only direction and have all of their incoming >> traffic on a single pipe and double the capacity >> of their network. Since they never exceed the >> incoming bandwidth of a single pipe there is no >> need to balance it. >> >> DT >> > >Ted and Daniel, > >I am still following this thread and am getting all >confused here. > >Back to my original question: 2 ADSL uplinks - 2 >different ISPs.... can they be merged? (Load balanced, >load shared, whatever it is) > No, as I already said, they can not. >OpenBSD's PF has something that looks promising: >http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html#outgoing >Is this what I am looking for? > Yance, I said no once, I'll say no again, you still don't believe me, please go set the thing up and see for yourself. As I said, set it up, plug one DSL line in, download the FreeBSD ISO, time it, plug the second DSL line in, download the FreeBSD ISO again, and measure the time it takes, there will be no difference. Then when your finished doing that, repeast the test but this time try uploading the ISO file to some remote server, with one line connected, then with both lines connected, and once again, you will see no difference. By that definition, no they are not merged/Load balanced/ load shared. If you have something else in mind, then load balancing, then maybe the software will do something that you want. But it will not load balance 2 lines to different ISP's. Ted