From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 22:46:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A4E106566C for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE3D8FC0A for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3so8684904obb.13 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:46:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=SygYVtaPS7EpgvOk/KKzkik62Os9Jox36SRby57dtPM=; b=DyjIqkHM05rwvt1uuyTH8X0awsToCYfPC2rGV03aVUI2lalbnOp7CJ1dPz0LrS+aOW z9/4K5KN+vDItg9YwRCmXlbizK/ZvTBlIBmnigp4x2uTShpL8yMpsIwerL5pfnq9sFP2 yuz0nb0YgrLxe012A2h6dUrKF1nYz3XFQMD9MQpueZzzUY9Gv7yj0rh4gzZrW6R4gM+z K2TeoMoZd/rYoAA332jTxWk+xqsCGuwuJKNHMPaL8uZBz+4T5+llOzYmdbteiGrauU2s ZUYREoDvXZDECOBKchnWwvuVdptnSe8Qp9zABWxTt0gpNWaKBM3xJwraAov9FEsetedC akrw== Received: by 10.60.30.136 with SMTP id s8mr5908736oeh.22.1347662768720; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [100.244.213.246] (m922636d0.tmodns.net. [208.54.38.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k8sm2755807oeh.9.2012.09.14.15.46.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20120914010625.GD15659@server.rulingia.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:45:06 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <065A5AD8-E6F7-4634-9A20-23BA19FD915B@bsdimp.com> References: <86har3sddc.fsf@ds4.des.no> <201209131249.q8DCnKe6061075@fire.js.berklix.net> <20120914010625.GD15659@server.rulingia.com> To: Peter Jeremy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkYybkKFDEQFn87+FhRyNnM4/7+G+gilGeipAQTtDIq+1gSyZ6ETxQZvVEmDFMTO3SMFsa1 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: Removing CVS from HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 22:46:10 -0000 On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > As for the schedule, as has been repeatedly stated, this change will > only affect 10.x and later. If this proposal goes ahead, the first > FreeBSD release to not have CVS in the base will be 10.0-RELEASE - > which (IMHO) is unlikely to appear for another year. And 9.x will > continue to include CVS in the base and should be supported for at > least 2 years after 10.0-RELEASE comes out. Thus, anyone currently > relying on the base CVS has at least 3 years to plan their transition. One thing the project has been really *BAD* at is broadcasting this = information. They don't have 3 years to plan if the only record of this = decision is in email mailing lists. We need to have an UPDATING_MAJOR = to list the changes from the last major release that are user visible. = Otherwise they will have only "minutes" of warning when they install = 10.0. Warner