From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 20:48: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C50037B400 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1113F43E42 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 20:48:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawkeyd@visi.com) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50894F9B; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:48:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g673lwM32615; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:47:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hawkeyd) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:47:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200207070347.g673lwM32615@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 1.0b.1 Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com Organization: if (!FIFO) if (!LIFO) break; References: <200207040113.g641DFL87663_tierzero.apana.org.au@ns.sol.net> In-Reply-To: <200207040113.g641DFL87663_tierzero.apana.org.au@ns.sol.net> From: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) Subject: Re: [OT] ISP anti-spam X-Original-Newsgroups: sol.lists.freebsd.questions To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200207040113.g641DFL87663_tierzero.apana.org.au@ns.sol.net>, bastill@sa.apana.org.au writes: > There seems to be a movement among ISPs to "help" us by applying spamassasin > (or similar) to all mail they handle - IN or OUT. > Is this an invasion of privacy? > Is such behaviour dangerous, in suggesting to political control freaks that > Internet Control is possible and desirable? > Would it be MUCH better for all users to be encouraged to use spam filters, > if they wish? > > What do people think on these and related issues? My ISP (visi.com, in Mpls, MN) uses SpamAssassin as a filter, but does not do anything about mail that SpamAssassin flags as spam. I think this a great thing - I wrote a sendmail ruleset to examine the X-Spam-Status mail header, discarding mail based on the SpamAssassin statuses I choose, rather than my ISP discarding mail based on what SpamAssassin thinks is spam. IANAL, but I think that an ISP who discards their customer's mail based on an evaluation like SpamAssassin does could be bucking for a lawsuit. Dave -- Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message