From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 06:02:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FFF16A419 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712C213C46E for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l8A62Idg094039; Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Lars Eighner" Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 23:02:34 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20070909131505.I14618@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Cc: Richard Tobin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Disk errors when copying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:02:24 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Lars Eighner [mailto:luvbeastie@larseighner.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:17 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Richard Tobin; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Disk errors when copying > > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > >> Subject: Disk errors when copying > >> > >> > >> When copy between disks (ad10 ->ad8), I get errors: > >> > >> ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) > >> LBA=435128800 > >> ad10: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 status=51 > >> error=10 LBA=435128800 > >> g_vfs_done():ad10s2g[READ(offset=175562145792, length=131072)]error = 5 > >> > >> I don't get these errors just reading the data from ad10. Is this > >> some kind of system error rather than a bad disk? Is it a > known problem? > >> > > > > Yes it is a known problem. It does not happen with most combinations > > of drives and controllers. You need to exhaustively document the > > motherboard/controller/hard disk and put it into a PR and file it > > so that the developer can add your combo into his database. The more > > of these that are documented the quicker that a coorelation is going > > to show up and get fixed. > > I wish I'd known that before I trashed my disc and spent a couple of weeks > and hundreds of bucks building a new system. > One of the rules of thumb when you have hardware problems with a new system (I'm assuming of course that these UDMA errors have been happening since the system was built) is to search both the FreeBSD questions mailing list archives, and the PR database - both closed and open PRs. Particularly closed PRs are a wealth of information because so many of them are closed for lack of followup. A typical scenario is someone will report a problem like your having and 3 months later the developer will make a change in the code and then ask the reporter to test the change and see if it fixed the problem. By then the original reporter has gone on to something else and won't respond. The developer then closes the PR and assumes whatever he did fixed the problem. If you do find closed PRs that are the same problem and same hardware as yours, definitely refer to their numbers in your PR. Ted