From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 7 06:23:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6254116A4CE for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 06:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hanoi.cronyx.ru (hanoi.cronyx.ru [144.206.181.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA2F43D1F for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 06:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rik@cronyx.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by hanoi.cronyx.ru id i47DK6po035837 for freebsd-net@freebsd.org.checked; (8.12.8/vak/2.1) Fri, 7 May 2004 17:20:06 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from rik@cronyx.ru) Received: from cronyx.ru (hi.cronyx.ru [144.206.181.94]) by hanoi.cronyx.ru with ESMTP id i47DHqY8035731; (8.12.8/vak/2.1) Fri, 7 May 2004 17:17:52 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from rik@cronyx.ru) Message-ID: <409B8CCD.1030300@cronyx.ru> Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 17:19:09 +0400 From: Roman Kurakin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031208 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gleb Smirnoff References: <20040507160253.B61288@woozle.rinet.ru> <20040507121738.GA97302@cell.sick.ru> <20040507162633.G61288@woozle.rinet.ru> <20040507123947.GA97635@cell.sick.ru> In-Reply-To: <20040507123947.GA97635@cell.sick.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: Dmitry Morozovsky Subject: Re: FrameRelay support for cx/ctau adapters X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 13:23:04 -0000 Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 04:31:08PM +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: >D> GS> FreeBSD has support for FR with help of nodes ng_frame_relay and ng_lmi. This >D> GS> support is hardware independent. And it works perfectly with cronyx adapters. >D> GS> What is a reason for merging hardware specific support from old cronyx driver into >D> GS> base system? >D> >D> Short answer: keep POLA. >D> >D> Longer answer: to keep 4.x systems with _existing_ fr setup up to date, >D> non-intuitive and non-atomic patches are now required. >D> >D> BTW: we have more than one perfectly (for particular meaning of 'perfect', os >D> course ;-) working firewall systems, more than on (3) ppp inplementations, and >D> more than one software raid implementation. I do not see any harm in existing >D> another (working!) implementation for fr then, especially when it does so >D> little bloat to the code base. > > From the point of FreeBSD cronyx driver appeared 1 month ago, and was not >supported before. > > By the way take a look at cvs update -r 1.1.1.2 if_spppsubr.c 15 May 1997 14:48:46 Support for FR was in FreeBSD's sppp since 15 May, but only on vendor branch :-( I can't say why it was only there. I don't know all history, but I may ask Sergey Vakulenko about those days if some one wants to know. I become maintainer of this code a few years later. I there is no serious objections, I can commit this part of our sppp. And personaly I prefer to do so. rik