From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Mar 19 7:23:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F3515508 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 07:23:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marko@uk.radan.com) Received: from [158.152.75.22] (helo=uk.radan.com) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10O16s-000ArN-0C; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:22:55 +0000 Organisation: Radan Computational Ltd., Bath, UK. Phone: +44-1225-320320 Fax: +44-1225-320311 Received: from support-3.uk.radan.com (support-3 [193.114.228.220]) by uk.radan.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA01412; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:21:53 GMT Received: from uk.radan.com by support-3.uk.radan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA24471; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:21:52 GMT Message-ID: <36F26B75.5951644@uk.radan.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:21:25 +0000 From: Mark Ovens Organization: Radan Computational Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Price Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux emulation != FreeBSD sale (was Re: Netscape browser) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Price wrote: > > Try as I might I can't get Netscape to record anywhere that > I'm downloading a copy of the Linux version only to run it on > a FreeBSD box. This is very bad! I download the Linux version. > It counts towards Linux sales. Somebody in sales mentions it > to another company and they release a Linux version of their > product because of bloated Linux interest numbers. This happens > again and again, and we arrive at where we are today - Linux > getting all the press and support because > There is exactly the same problem when registering Corel WP8 for Linux. I posted a message about this a while ago and someone replied with some e-mail addresses for Corel. I sent an e-mail to them about it but, as you might guess, I got no response. > Linux sales = real Linux sales + sales for emulated copies > > I don't know the solution to this problem. I do know that > using a Linux product under emulation doesn't do much to bolster > interest (at least not from the company putting out the product) > unless we get the numbers to count in our favor. > I suppose it's understandable that they're not interested when you look at it from their point of view. They are only interested in gauging how many people are using the Linux *version* of the product so they can decide whether to continue developing it. Even though we're using the software under FreeBSD, and want them to know it, it's still the Linux version. This is the same kind of situation with OS/2 Warp and Windows (3.x). Win 3.x apps would run (often better) under Warp but how many companies had "runs under OS/2" in their adverts or on the product box? If we're honest what we are looking for is some free advocacy/advertising for FreeBSD but Netscape/Corel aren't out to promote OSs, just sell their product. I doubt that adding "also runs on FreeBSD" is going to do much to enhance their sales as most (all?) FreeBSD users know that they can run Linux programs. Don't get me wrong. I would love to see "FreeBSD" everywhere "Linux" appears on these company's websites, packaging, adverts etc. but I can understand why it doesn't happen. > -steve > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:marko@uk.radan.com http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message