From owner-freebsd-small Thu Oct 19 5:31:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gid.co.uk [194.32.164.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3917A37B4D7 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 05:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rb@localhost) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA49319; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:29:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001019105640.00b17910@gid.co.uk> X-Sender: rbmail@gid.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:19:33 +0100 To: chad@DCFinc.com, grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: picobsd on cdrom Cc: dr@dursec.com, dalcocer@home.com, abc@bsdi.com, glaess@element5.de, small@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200010190920.CAA01687@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20001014161651.W1489@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:20 19/10/00 -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > Four or five different build directories in /usr/src/release/picobsd, > > most of them broken. The FreeBSD kernel has bloated considerably > > since 3.0, and I expect it to continue to do so. I think that it > > won't be long before a single (1.44 MB) floppy PicoBSD will not be > > possible with a -CURRENT or -RELEASE. > >I suggested this a bit earlier, but I'll try again. Perhaps the >PicoBSD project ought to standardize on the 2.2.x system. Is there >something that happened in 3.x or 4.x that is applicable to PicoBSD? Plenty. I'm looking at picobsd on -current right now, because I need USB modem support. While the standard pico builds are nice as templates, anyone using pico seriously should expect to do a custom build. My experience is that for what I'm doing (routers, serial console servers and the like) size isn't an issue, but I do prune kernel options and drivers ruthlessly. In any case, the 1.44MB floppy is an endangered species. CDROM booting is somewhat hit-and-miss, but compact flash and net boots are viable alternatives in many applications and don't have the size restriction. I think it would be a big mistake to fix pico on an old base release. -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 977 4017 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 989 4254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message