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Date:      Thu, 20 Jun 2002 20:47:24 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Bosko Milekic <bmilekic@unixdaemons.com>
Cc:        Gary Thorpe <gat7634@hotmail.com>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: multiple threads for interrupts
Message-ID:  <3D12A1CC.988B23D0@mindspring.com>
References:  <F112l4rhYQYx3G5aYY6000252ae@hotmail.com> <3D1293AE.FDEC441D@mindspring.com> <20020620230514.B38506@unixdaemons.com>

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Bosko Milekic wrote:
> I think
> I've found a "Strange Loop" in your Email:
> 
> - Believe me because I'm telling you this is better.
> - Don't believe people who tell you to believe them because they say that
>   it is better.
> 
> If I accept the first point, I cannot accept the second without
> re-defining the meaning of "belief," at the very least.  Similarly, if I
> accept the second point, I cannot accept the first without, again,
> somehow re-defining the meaning of "belief," at least.

Actually, I don't have a loop.  What I'm saying is:

-	People are saying A is better
-	Other people are implementing A on faith alone
-	My personal belief is that B is better
-	Before anything becomes a part of FreeBSD, whether it be
	A or B, I'd like to see some benchmarks proving it's
	better.

If there's a loop, maybe it's:

	"I'm telling you to believe that you should not believe
	 things without benchmarks"

Of course, I have no benchmarks to prove that benchmarks are really
necessary or useful... 8-).

I do, though, have lots of papers on receiver livelock that I've
posted the references to before.  The problem there is that most
people don't read papers.

-- Terry

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