From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 26 10:59:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA25085 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:59:41 -0800 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25080 for ; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:59:39 -0800 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA15164; Sun, 26 Nov 1995 11:53:55 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199511261853.LAA15164@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Thoughts on the install and on Red Hat Linux. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 11:53:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: jfieber@indiana.edu, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9417.817366166@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 25, 95 10:09:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1319 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Just to keep focus on the ultimate purpose of the installation software, > > making installation painless, or even fun, I offer this less technical > > description of what is in order for the next great installation. I think > > developing a slick new X install program is nifty, but meaningless if some > > more basic installation issues are not addressed first. > > Hmmmmm. This sounds suspiciously like "design before implementation" > or one of those other socialist granola-eating philosophies from the > 60's at places like Berkeley & CWI. Jeeze, he'll start quoting Wirth > next if we don't stop him! :-) > > Seriously, this sounds like a reasonable attempt to bring the techies > back down to earth. Any human interface people care to jump in at > this point and start suggesting how John's 16 step program might be > implemented? I'm good at thinking up the implementation details, but > not so good at the "story boarding" that John seems to be suggesting > for this stage. Or you could go to the X/Open standards, since they cover exactly this, and then you'd not only have "design before code", you'd have "compliance with standards". I know, silly. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.