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Date:      Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:10:50 -0500
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>
Cc:        kde@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: multislot cardreader and hald
Message-ID:  <1198516250.34216.19.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
In-Reply-To: <476FC2EC.2060804@icyb.net.ua>
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On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 16:32 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote:
> on 21/12/2007 15:33 Joe Marcus Clarke said the following:
> > Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:59:44 -0600, Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua> wro=
te:
> >>
> >>> on 20/12/2007 19:03 Jeremy Messenger said the following:
> >>>> I am no expert on hald, but if I understand it correct. If there is =
no
> >>>> probe in hald then hald will never know if you put/keep your da disk=
s in
> >>>> and pull out. I bet other OSs do the same things. Correct me if I am
> >>>> wrong.
> >>> I now see what you are saying and this makes a lot of sense indeed. A=
nd
> >>> I agree that FreeBSD kernel is overly verbose about such a condition =
-
> >>> after all it is normal that a device with a ("field") removable media
> >>> can have no media. I need to check how FreeBSD 7 behaves in this resp=
ect
> >> FreeBSD 7 beahves same. I have 7.0-BETA4 (Dec 13). If I put DVD movie =
in
> >> and I will get over 16k lines in message under a minute.
> >>
> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/messages.txt.bz2
> >>
> >> If I put a blank CD in and I only get less than ten lines in messages.=
 I
> >> can't wait for someone to fix FreeBSD because that over 16k lines unde=
r
> >> a minute is very annoy.
> >=20
> > Disc media is treated differently than USB media.  USB umass devices ar=
e
> > assumed to have media.  This is part of the issue with the card reader
> > (floppy drives behave the same way).
>=20
> Isn't this a bad assumption?

Probably, but right now I'm strapped with what I have time to do.  Since
you have the hardware, if you could come up with a fix for hal, I'd be
happy to commit it.

Joe

--=20
Joe Marcus Clarke
FreeBSD GNOME Team      ::      gnome@FreeBSD.org
FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome
http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome

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