From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 10 21:55:38 2000 From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 21:55:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C393A37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBB5tYs66628; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:55:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA34071; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:55:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200012110555.WAA34071@harmony.village.org> To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Subject: Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation Cc: Mike Meyer , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:39:51 MST." <14900.19591.200496.869754@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <14900.19591.200496.869754@nomad.yogotech.com> <14898.33404.356173.963351@guru.mired.org> <14898.31393.228926.763711@guru.mired.org> <200012100904.CAA27546@harmony.village.org> <3A336781.94E1646@newsguy.com> <14899.41809.754369.259894@guru.mired.org> <200012101557.KAA29588@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <14899.43958.622675.847234@guru.mired.org> <20001210120840.C38697@vger.bsdhome.com> <14899.47196.795281.662619@zircon.seattle.wa.us> <14899.49294.958909.82912@guru.mired.org> <14899.62738.768609.598990@nomad.yogotech.com> <14899.62189.243395.903919@nomad.yogotech.com> <14900.2598.958785.326648@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:55:33 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: imp@harmony.village.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14900.19591.200496.869754@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes: : I know that as recent as 3=4 years ago, Purify installed itself by : default in /usr/local, on SunOS and Solaris. Lucid did this as well, : although things start getting pretty fuzzy going back that far. :) purify and the binary distributions of xemacs installed themselves into /usr/local on Solaris in the 1992-1996 time frame. As did *ALL* of the software binaries we downloaded from the net. Framemaker installed in /usr/local as well in the SunOS 3.5/4.0 time frame. Interleaf installed itself in /usr/local on SunOS 4.0/4.1 time frame. : > My claims about "history" and "tradition" are attempts to refute : > Brandon's assertion that packages going into /usr/local has "years of : > tradition behind it." Mostly, it's about what *packages* are, not what : > /usr/local was used for. : : I disagree. I do too. : Probably the same time-frame for SunOS, although I didn't have : experience with it until the early 90's. However, if necessary, I can : try and dig out installation docs for some software which ask to have : the stuff unpacked in /usr/local. I still have some backup tapes of our main server from the 1992 time frame that shows software packages from ISVs installed into /usr/local/bin. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message