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Date:      Fri, 22 Jan 2021 14:46:56 -0800
From:      bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
Subject:   Needless work in buildworld Was: Re: Silent hang in buildworld, was Re: Invoking -v for clang during buildworld
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 01:53:06PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote:
> 
> I made a discovery of an unfortunate property of META_MODE relative
> to minimizing builds with installworld invovled between builds as
> things are. See:
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2021-January/078488.html
> 
> for details.
> 
Is this simply because the "target" is timestamped at installation, while the
object files are dated at creation? If so, would some sort of checksum be able
to distinguish meaningful changes? Would it be computationally worthwhile?

More broadly, I've been surprised to see lots of files associated with foreign
architechtures reported in self-hosting buildworld logs on the Pi2/3. Things
with mips, ppc and i386 in the pathname. The log always reports building "cross 
tools" when it's compiling for itself, which puts an odd meaning on the term "cross". 
Are cross tools and object files for alien hardware really needed in such a case?

Thanks for reading!

bob prohaska
 

 



> I'll note that stable/13 now exists and git's main is now 14-CURRENT.
> Unfortunately, it seems that main (14-CURRENT) will not get the
> weekly snapshot builds that are reported at any:
> 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-snapshots/202*-*/thread.html
> 
> and go somewhere below (for example):
> 
> http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/
> 
> until sometime after after 13.0-RELEASE : only stable/{11,12,13}
> likely will, from what I'm told. Also, ci.freebsd.org is not
> building main (14-CURRENT) yet. stable/13 builds are non-debug
> builds.
> 
> https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/ being filling in has
> not caught up with 13.0-STABLE , stable/13 , 14.0-CURRENT , or
> main yet.
> 
> ===
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com
> ( dsl-only.net went
> away in early 2018-Mar)
> 



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