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Date:      Wed, 3 Mar 2021 12:30:44 -0800
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org>, Joseph Mingrone <jrm@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r566827 - in head/ports-mgmt/poudriere-devel: . files
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From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To: Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org>, Joseph Mingrone <jrm@FreeBSD.org>
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Subject: Re: svn commit: r566827 - in head/ports-mgmt/poudriere-devel: . files
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On 3/3/2021 12:00 PM, Jan Beich wrote:
> Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>=20
>> On 3/3/2021 6:13 AM, Jan Beich wrote:
>>
>>> Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Author: bdrewery
>>>> Date: Mon Mar  1 05:11:42 2021
>>>> New Revision: 566827
>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/566827
>>>>
>>>> Log:
>>>>   - Update to 3.3.0-540-g9f9007eb8
>>> [...]
>>>>   * bulk -af: Delete unqueued packages like pkgclean.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> I've locally reverted https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/commit/b19=
ef339b1a3
>>>
>>> Being a ports/ committer I sometimes have to test not just changes to=
 a
>>> specific port but also its consumers (from a few to hundreds). Each s=
uch
>>> list rarely fits on the command line, so I save it into a file and pa=
ss
>>> to -f. The new behavior of deleting unqueued packages produces churn
>>> with intermediate dependencies if not shared by all lists e.g.,
>>>
>>> $ git grep -l :devel/py-apscheduler | sed s,/Makefile,, >/tmp/apsched=
uler.consumers.list
>>> $ poudriere bulk -rtkj 122amd64 -f /tmp/apscheduler.consumers.list
>>> [...]
>>> [00:00:03] Deleting gcc9-9.3.0_1.txz: no longer needed
>>> [...]
>>> [00:00:04] Deleting llvm11-11.0.1.txz: no longer needed
>>> [00:00:04] Deleting llvm80-8.0.1_4.txz: no longer needed
>>> [00:00:04] Deleting llvm90-9.0.1_3.txz: no longer needed
>>> [...]
>>> [00:00:04] Deleting qt5-webengine-5.15.2_1.txz: no longer needed
>>> [...]
>>> [00:00:04] Deleting rust-1.50.0.txz: no longer needed
>>> [...]
>>>
>>
>> Are you also passing -t or other testing flags? I think it could make
>> sense to skip this step for -t at least.
>=20
> When testing consumers a bustage almost never depends on -t. For ports =
with
> hundreds of consumers enabling -t may produce lots of distracting noise=
 from
> ports in poor shape, often unmaintained. For example, I remember disabl=
ing
> -t when locally testing devel/boost-libs consumers.
>=20
> Nowadays, I always pass -r and -t (via poudriere.conf) to get more usef=
ul
> logs and catch unrelated issues. While investigating subtle issues like=

> unused dependencies or runtime regressions I've often found myself need=
ing
> the extra information like NEEDED lines months later.
>=20
> Also, having packages from different poudriere runs built with and with=
out
> "-f list" is useful for the occasional "in vitro" runtime testing insid=
e
> jail of various release/arch tuples e.g., when users report bugs.
>=20

Yup all makes sense.

I've reverted the change for -f in r567257. It remains for -a.

--=20
Regards,
Bryan Drewery


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