From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 10:28:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D863416A41F for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:28:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BFF43D46 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:28:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k09AW4P59376; Mon, 9 Jan 2006 02:32:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Peter Leftwich" Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 02:28:33 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: <20060108150831.H19665@rocket.alienwebshop.com> Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Robert Slade Subject: RE: /dev/eth0 question [FC4] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 10:28:48 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Leftwich [mailto:Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com] >Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:20 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Robert Slade; questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: /dev/eth0 question [FC4] > > >On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> He probably thinks the competence level on this list is >higher. Kind of >> makes you wonder why he's running their OS. ;-) >> Ted > >Bingo! *grins* I would really truly rather be running FreeBSD >right now, >but the SUPER extra EASY GUI installer for FC4 was just SO MUCH >SIMPLER and >inviting, and if I may venture to say... even easier than any M$FT one. > GUI? we don't need no steenkin GUI. Seriously, don't forget the entire point of a gui is to isolate you further and further from what is actually going on, so you learn less and less. The 'dumbing down' of the userbase is what it is. If you can get them dumbed down enough so they are completely helpless, then they will start paying you for free software. The original BSD used a shell script to install, if you can believe it. We never used to get questions of the form "how do I add a disk drive to my system" until they went away from that. Ted