From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 18 23:54:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63AA37B409 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 23:54:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7J6wrS07021; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 23:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200108190658.f7J6wrS07021@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Hodge Podge Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, val@picturetrail.com, mike.wentz@3ware.com Subject: Re: 3ware stuff not ready for heavy duty useage In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Aug 2001 22:23:59 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 23:58:53 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Firstly, I would like to thank Nicole for giving me a chance to offer her some informed information and suggestions before going public with this slam. I'm glad I was able to ... well, no, actually, I didn't hear jack about this until now. Pity. > OK.. I tried.. I really liked the 3ware stuff. At first all of our > troubles seemed to be directly traceable to my usage of IBM DTLA drives. > But now after replacing abt 16 IBM drives.. I am still dealing with the > 3ware card droppin g out drives like rain. This is a known feature of the card; it will drop drives when the error count for the drive gets too high. Typically, this only happens when you have bad sectors on the drive; hitting a bad sector a few times a day will eventually drive the error counter too high and drop the drive. I don't like it; I've been trying to talk 3ware out of it, but the real fix is rather subjective. In your case, though, this doesn't look like the problem. I'd be very suspicious of your data cabling (you are using the cables that came with the controller, right?) and power supply. 10 drives is way more than your average box can power, especially if you are working them hard. More details here would help narrow the problem down. > I have had it. There are no driver issues here, there is no FreeBSD issue > here, its all 3ware and can IDE drives really take abuse at all like that in > a database server or even a very busy picture server. They can, actually. You know perfectly well that there are other people out there that aren't having these problems beating these cards up. You know that 3ware and I are both interested in fixing anything that's wrong. So why are you crying in public about it, when you could be getting it fixed? This doesn't do anyone any favours. 8( Regards, Mike -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message