Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 22:14:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rashid Karimov." <rashid@haven.ios.com> To: karl@bagpuss.demon.co.uk (Karl Strickland) Cc: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Random Lockups Message-ID: <199507030214.WAA00940@haven.ios.com> In-Reply-To: <199507021953.UAA05828@bagpuss.demon.co.uk> from "Karl Strickland" at Jul 2, 95 08:53:36 pm
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Hi there, > > > Well, allegedly the lock-up could be caused by QUOTAs > > code or "rlogin" command under cirtain circumstances > > ( it was reorted here a day ago) . > > > > I'm expiriencing the stuff regularly on P90/128Mb/Bustec. > > > > Never had the problem with previous SNAP code :( > > > > If any1 here thinks about switching to 205 to run the > > server - DO NOT DO IT ! The system is not stable :( Alas :( > > This is unfair - realise that 205 does *not* lockup for everyone. I have > been running FreeBSD since before 1.0 and before that have used several > commercial PC UNIX os's. 205 is the most stable OS I have ever had running > on this box - I have not had a single crash or lockup with it. Well... it was explicitly stated here ( the same thread) by some1 from FreeBSD team that 205 _was never intedted to be stable ;( Just a try between 1.5 ( the last most stable version) and 2.1 One of the design goals for 2.1 is exceptional stability . I'm wondering how many ppl here run FreeBSD PCs as _servers. Say 3500-3000 accounts in /etc/passwd , 50-60 of them on-line (average) , everybody has his own WEB page , POP3 and stuff/ Average 250-280 processes running in the same time . 5-6 user partitions with QUOTAs . How stable is _this combination , if any ? IMHO , not very stable ...I run it on different P90 systems - not the same brand - so that's definitely not the problem with particular HW. As a workstation or server with limited functionality - YES , it IS stable . > > The difficulty is that a particular lockup may only be apparent with your > particular combination of hardware. Of course this is a bitch for you, > and makes the problems difficult to reproduce and fix for everyone else. > But it also means that you cannot slag off the entire release, just because I'm not slagging it ... just expressing my concern. I AM using FreeBSD for quite a time in _very crucial _business servers - so I trust it. The same time when I c that stability gets worse with _new release comparing to previous SNAP - it bothers me , as well as it should bother everybody here. The good point is that's hard to imagine _real server w/o any problems - Sun or PC under different (commercial) Unix , but when it aparently could be tracked to problems w/o OS - the tiny part of it - the driver code or subsystem's ( QUOTAs ) one, it should raise concern. Rashid
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