From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 08:35:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F7A16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:35:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@areilly.bpa.nu) Received: from qsrv02sl.mx.bigpond.com (qsrv02sl.mx.bigpond.com [144.140.93.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9271913C46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@areilly.bpa.nu) Received: from oaamta08sl.mx.bigpond.com ([124.188.161.237]) by omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20071114030138.CITM9168.omta01sl.mx.bigpond.com@oaamta08sl.mx.bigpond.com> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:01:38 +0000 Received: from areilly.bpa.nu ([124.188.161.237]) by oaamta08sl.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20071114030138.ZMBW304.oaamta08sl.mx.bigpond.com@areilly.bpa.nu> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:01:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 24085 invoked by uid 501); 14 Nov 2007 02:59:03 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:59:03 +1100 From: Andrew Reilly To: Dmitry Morozovsky Message-ID: <20071114025903.GA72819@duncan.reilly.home> References: <69AF611A-3E27-49B9-A81F-033A94D796E4@khera.org> <20070928232008.K89977@woozle.rinet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070928232008.K89977@woozle.rinet.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Vivek Khera , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Progress with usability of AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:35:22 -0000 On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:24:41PM +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Vivek Khera wrote: > VK> My list of software is purely server stuff; I > VK> don't use any FreeBSD desktops. > > It seems to be the key point here. > > I'm thinking about giving a try for the following scheme for my development > desktop at work: > > amd64 machine with servers' ports built inside (postgresql-server, apache, etc) > with i386 jail with desktop applications (xorg, firefox/nspluginwrappers, MUA, > you name it...) > > ENOTIME so far... Utility is definitely a personal variable. I run a FreeBSD-6-stable workstation at AMD64 and am more or less happy with it, but I also have a MacOS laptop, which I can fall back to for anything that falls out of the FreeBSD-amd64 capability bucket, like watching the google Android videos on youtube, (and I know where to find a Windows laptop when that isn't enough, either). [Since when were video-only web presentations a good idea? Not a trend I approve of, but for "quick-and-dirty" I suppose it saves having someone write up a transcript...] Certainly xorg, firefox (and epiphany, which I prefer) and MUA (thunderbird, evolution, mutt, claws-mail(my pref.)) all work happily in amd64 mode. -- Andrew