From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jun 21 21:59:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12852 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:59:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [205.153.153.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12847 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fewtch@serv.net) Received: from desktop-pentium (dialup543.serv.net [207.207.70.108]) by mx.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29986; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980621215905.007fb8a0@mx.serv.net> X-Sender: fewtch@mx.serv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:59:05 -0700 To: Nik Clayton , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tim Gerchmez Subject: Re: Latest discoveries... In-Reply-To: <19980621234817.22444@nothing-going-on.org> References: <3.0.5.32.19980621125604.007f66c0@mx.serv.net> <3.0.5.32.19980621125604.007f66c0@mx.serv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First off, nothing "eludes me." I chose to purposely bend the rules by asking a question, since I gave some advice at the same time, and I felt the two balanced each other out. If you don't like it, go complain/whine/moan elsewhere. I'm afraid I didn't find the answer where you said it was, or at least couldn't figure out how to use it. I tried at least 30 or 40 different forms of syntax as described in the man page section you mention and always got error messages. Why the hell is it so hard just to get a simple answer sometimes? Either you get "Read the manual stupid, it's right there," "Ask in another group, we don't do questions here" or something similar. If someone asks *ME* a question that I can answer, I usually answer it (and point out further resources at the same time for further learning). Yet all I ever get (here OR on freebsd-questions) is "it's in the manual, it's in the manual, it's in the manual, it's in the manual, it's in the manual." OBVIOUSLY... EVERYTHING ANYONE EVER NEEDS TO KNOW IS IN A MANUAL OR BOOK SOMEWHERE, but time plays a factor as well. I could keep trying different forms of syntax on those aliases (might take me a week) until I got it, or could go spend $45 on a book to find the answer to one question. Why is it so hard to give someone a quick answer to a simple question, so they can get on with what they're doing? I'll never for the life of me figure this one out. Everything's gotta be done the hard way. At 11:48 PM 6/21/98 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: >On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 12:56:04PM -0700, Tim Gerchmez wrote: >> Still need to know: How to use multiple commands in csh aliases. > >Which bit of "Ask questions on -questions" eludes you? > >Particularly when the answer is in the first paragraph of the 'Commands' >section of the csh(1) man page (a whole 6 pages in on a 25 line display)? -- My web site starts at http://www.serv.net/~fewtch/index.html - lots of goodies for everyone, have a look if you have the time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message