From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 07:05:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2220BD8 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 07:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (smtp-sofia.digsys.bg [193.68.21.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp-sofia.digsys.bg", Issuer "Digital Systems Operational CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28EBC1874 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 07:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dcave.digsys.bg (dcave.digsys.bg [193.68.6.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-sofia.digsys.bg (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id s83745uk061136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 10:04:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from daniel@digsys.bg) Message-ID: <5406BD65.705@digsys.bg> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 10:04:05 +0300 From: Daniel Kalchev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 07:05:18 -0000 On 02.09.14 18:40, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Time to rebuild everything from scratch I think - second time in a > year.. I'm guessing my boss is going to tell me, use RPM, no wasting > more time on it... only time will tell... you'll know the result if > you see future posts and patches from me. You must really hate RPM, as pkg is trying to do essentially the same for FreeBSD. :) As others already mentioned, rebuilding production environments/packages via cron jobs from moving target such as the current ports three is not the best setup favoring 'stability'. These things can and do fail sometimes. From your postings on this thread I understand you are unhappy that your pkg_tools poudriere jails were messed up. So are many others. The switch is indeed a pain, but the direction is good. Progress is part of evolution -- it knocks off some, and promotes others. We will have to live with it. WhateverHat is not better. Daniel