From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 27 14:38:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5A637B427 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f8RLc3N43444 ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 23:38:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id XAA77662 ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 23:38:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 23:38:03 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: David Schwartz Cc: paul@freebsd-services.com, FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: helping victims of terror Message-ID: <20010927233803.A77565@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010927213312.C69066@lpt.ens.fr> <20010927211814.AAA4770@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010927211814.AAA4770@shell.webmaster.com@whenever>; from davids@webmaster.com on Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 02:18:13PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Schwartz said on Sep 27, 2001 at 14:18:13: > >There is no such thing as a good ideology. A thinking person must always > >question, and accept certain aspects of any ideology which appeals, but be > >willing to reject other aspects of the same ideology (in particular > >religion, but also communism and capitalism). > >Everyone must have a personal philosophy, subject to change, and not > >dictated by external authorities who can't be questioned. > > Right, but this is not consistent with: > > >If there was an ideology that said having blonde hair was a crime but that > >violent actions were evil then it is not the fault of the ideology for > >violence against people with blonde hair since those perpetrating the > >violence are not believers in the ideology, they're just haters of people > >with blonde hair who have picked out that one piece of someone elses > >ideology to justify their actions. I didn't write that. You gave that (stupid, imo) example and Paul answered you, but I didn't even want to get into that debate. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message