From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Mar 2 00:43:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E81455245B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2021 00:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DqJK04XK9z4Yt0 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2021 00:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from [10.0.10.15] (unknown [10.0.10.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 066874AA39 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2021 17:43:31 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pinyon.org; s=dkim; t=1614645811; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=/5D1myk6vALc0+/Lae6qTX4uES9DfcOdqU43ZOPlrUw=; b=s/q9CQF34su3YHyLTvqYLFHAfu9V+qqqF8DYVwUmDnN0x5Nx6oUFRKAjA1DjxvKttZ7y3H 41JT2k8AhqbEIhQQJtE0XSlbkk24OPVwPBd7xgyLtekkN55aSA1DlzNvsxZm5ej5IDWZA8 gGmzewGtJI3vQJ8nWmqliPXNEKrKFok= Subject: Re: Totally OT comment: Re: Somewhat OT: Mail Relay Services To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <877d08ef-d533-69f6-4c44-f2cbbe39ba31@tundraware.com> <3926E240-2226-4E94-96E2-10A877B139D0@kicp.uchicago.edu> <3dac8dd5-7751-1823-3cfc-45172cd77b64@FreeBSD.org> <2edd9853-3af7-c0b8-7118-329d8af346be@kicp.uchicago.edu> <8dc26e45-355a-dadd-0309-02dda1da3d87@tundraware.com> <5b1d0cdf-65c8-19bd-1d3f-0a3ff2922d1f@pinyon.org> <96c1cfb2-4b64-8532-5dc9-c99d33ce9924@pinyon.org> <20210302003122.5c44f080a4f3c7a0424b6408@sohara.org> From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-ID: <073af9f7-f978-36ff-ed6d-e8d60bfd066f@pinyon.org> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 17:43:30 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0 Thunderbird/78.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210302003122.5c44f080a4f3c7a0424b6408@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.10 X-Rspamd-Server: h2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DqJK04XK9z4Yt0 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=dkim header.b=s/q9CQF3; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[65.101.20.170:from:127.0.2.255]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[65.101.20.170:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.101.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2021 00:43:33 -0000 On 3/1/21 5:31 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 17:15:47 -0700 > "Russell L. Carter" wrote: > >> Agreed! That's what I intend to do, but I have to move my >> infrastructure physically out into the cloud to get rid of my >> last mile ISP problem. Roamers are a complication, obviously. > > Use a VPN to make it virtually a LAN. Indeed! Wireguard in the kernel is perfect. I've been using debian on my cloud servers *only* because it had wireguard in the kernel. I'm converting the first one tonight. There are devices like GL-INET that I've used to aggregate phones in a hotel room into a wireguard VPN and it has worked fabulous. Russell