From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Dec 10 9:38: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 09:37:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interware.hu (mail.interware.hu [195.70.32.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3316937B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaborone-42.budapest.interware.hu ([195.70.52.170] helo=elischer.org) by mail.interware.hu with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 145APy-0002gQ-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:37:46 +0100 Sender: julian@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A33BF4B.97EE1BCC@elischer.org> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:37:15 -0800 From: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: inheriting the "nodump" flag ? References: <97668.976451080@critter> <3A33BCCE.844B35B4@vangelderen.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" wrote: > > > This answer does not address the real point Julian is trying > to make. Trying to fix a buggy dump implementation by patching > the kernel is the wrong approach. It doesn't matter how peculiar > the tree walker is, if it's buggy the fixing needs to be done > there. thanks: well the patch is there on the URL given below. I fully support implementing it on FreeBSD as well. (with a little testing) > > It looks like NetBSD have already addressed the problem a > year ago: > > http://lists.openresources.com/NetBSD/tech-kern/msg00453.html > > for the beginning of a thread discussing the problem. This > was the first hit Google returned for "nodump flag". Basic > research is cheap these days... > > A look at the NetBSD PR in question (6705) reveals: > http://www.NetBSD.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=6705 > [...] > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: bouyer > State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 9 09:32:08 PST 1999 > State-Changed-Why: > Functionality added [to dump I presume], but differently. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > It seems that fixing dump is the correct approach. Changing > the semantics to nodump almost certainly is not as Julian > pointed out in his other mail (<3A336EA3.9F1FE318@elischer.org>). > > I can now even add another reason why changing the kernel isn't > such a good plan: inter-BSD compatibility. > > Cheers, > Jeroen > -- > Jeroen C. van Gelderen o _ _ _ > jeroen@vangelderen.org _o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) > _< \_ _>(_) (_)/<_ \_| \ _|/' \/ > (_)>(_) (_) (_) (_) (_)' _\o_ -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ julian@elischer.org ( OZ ) World tour 2000 ---> X_.---._/ presently in: Budapest v To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message