From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 8 14:51:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546A5106564A for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E708FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so681742vcb.13 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 06:51:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3zkaKlTq+iUQiOAKBTTtKn1MV2EfgBEhzry7aBWZqaI=; b=TmbTh1TPKddEu+Ip0uG83L+H5NCpNEDWcMGt6MsQYcK8ldvWjgi86f/8D2gUqiRYHy GzZKg7bSQbsXeug1AGLGuzhe9Q718ibvUv7KEGndzGCFzrcqSoGPdpN6Z86MB7hXFLNL JvVWYtO4WUjOB5HOUCN9BqTrVF0PhIAwvB+wE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.19.177 with SMTP id g17mr7921547vde.107.1320762454459; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 06:27:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.182.40 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 06:27:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:27:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: Tom Evans To: Xn Nooby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best $1000 Freebsd laptop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:51:13 -0000 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Xn Nooby wrote: > I bought a laptop that has an unsupported video card, so now it is my > "windows laptop". =C2=A0I am thinking of getting another to be my "freebs= d > laptop", so I want to make sure it really works with FreebSD. =C2=A0I cou= ld > probably spend <$1000 (USD) on one. =C2=A0I like the look of the Lenovos > but I am unfamiliar with all the different models, and have never > bought anything from their webstore. =C2=A0I normally buy from Dell or > Amazon, and I never buy used or refurbished (unless its a car!). > > My main requirements are having long battery life, opengl graphics, > vtx suppoort (virtualization). =C2=A0A decent drive (500+GB) and ram (6GB= +) > would be nice. =C2=A0I can't believe ZFS needs 6GB+ ram, and I am not sur= e > I would want to get a lot of ram, just so I could use ZFS. =C2=A0On the > other hand, I read that UFS is getting old. =C2=A0I would rather use RAM > for running virtual machines. > > I'm scared to death of getting another machine that has an unsupported > video card (like nvidia optimus), or no VTX. =C2=A0I want a long lasting > machine that I can travel with, take to work, and not be limited by. > My windows laptop is an i3 with VTX, and is a little under-powered, so > I am thinking of an i5+. =C2=A0I don't do a lot of number-crunching, but = I > don't want it to be slow, either. > > Any suggestions? I'm using a Dell Latitude E6410 with nvidia graphics option (NVS 3100M) with 8.2-STABLE*. Everything worked out of the box, except for suspend/resume, which I personally don't care about, and have never even tried to get working. ZFS doesn't require 6GB of RAM, but it will use all available RAM unless you tell it otherwise. You can limit the amount of ARC to a sane amount depending upon your available RAM/workloads, and ZFS won't grow much above that (ARC is not the only thing it uses memory on, but it is the biggest). You would get decent performance limiting ZFS to ~ 2GB of RAM. Cheers Tom * Please don't tell me "8.2 STABLE doesn't exist, it's 8-STABLE" - it's not according to what "uname -r" says.