From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 30 04:49:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE84106564A for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@dataix.net) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4A18FC0A for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:49:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25so575987iah.13 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:49:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dataix.net; s=rsa; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-disposition; bh=CwevVlp3RD1n8nUAVAf2YWaVbDt+ThkL8Djel27pLSs=; b=BAAlOjLevF9MZ7gFitokWltfa8LNIbR/79pBAM9a0lSYXQcpnESrcWsK+yCh454fkv 8HUjycnMRzjFlYgYk1UdWZDJLhs+rZ3tFGpz0/iyJH7zYFswl3HGJiawolGh3T6v0R8A HH4shUUApkVukGA9sEesSupE9Jmh5Ry/xnhII= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-gm-message-state:content-type:content-disposition; bh=CwevVlp3RD1n8nUAVAf2YWaVbDt+ThkL8Djel27pLSs=; b=CnTHrTR/VR8mp/9ms3i2OAoZwKSZLA/KhrXlL+lRmdaVLBdcmhRmxFDB8A3htoZHop ljPihinqSHbWxzmzF4qXWl9rPvmGtxGxlp5FRZglOL3QyyoZDCIaapolrxlTfGvxeRUE /cmx9CjhTOeMqF6Tn3O0wujyVuX8AJo+0IhyrUVQ3hOe+QSmUY6X3jLsezFyMcPW+7WB 6wkDVLhF7K/j4lsgbBWb+JpPEWaSuhyVsRFu1tF/yTjwem0kwNbtC50RK5nT2RX/bdby KPPZFru0dr6VNaUrAVprfm8vWsiBfoKL3iWAIYnkecPb/eG4GiaNL7V8y3mJ2y/NcoBD wUcA== Received: by 10.43.48.65 with SMTP id uv1mr358916icb.57.1333082975695; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (adsl-99-181-151-192.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net. [99.181.151.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nq4sm1154567igc.5.2012.03.29.21.49.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2U4nWM5088564 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:49:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhellenthal@DataIX.net) Received: (from jhellenthal@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q2U4nVhu087953; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:49:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhellenthal@DataIX.net) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:49:31 -0400 From: Jason Hellenthal To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20120330044931.GA4154@DataIX.net> References: <942975b7-aa54-416d-b049-a50563bbf2a7@email.android.com> <4F73758D.3040000@brandonfa.lk> <20120329082027.GA68062@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20120329082027.GA68062@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQku3IAoENUQZ4MfH9VOg1qs/0jfLmXATVHhYzws52YKjakbJV2rCSQ5ea2WxXUxHojWtH07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "Chris.H" , Brandon Falk Subject: Re: Reverse engineering; How to... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:49:36 -0000 On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:20:27AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 04:33:17PM -0400, Brandon Falk wrote: > > Reverse engineering a whole driver could take a very long time, even with the > > proper tools. If it's possible, return the adapter, and buy a new one and verify > > that the chipset is supported before you buy it. Last time I bought a wireless > > card I sat in the store looking at the Wireless support list for BSD before buying. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/support.html#WLAN > > > > I very strongly suggest that you get a card with an Atheros chipset, as those > > are by far the best supported on BSD. > > sure, but how? > > I've tried very hard to get a pccard with > an atheros chip, but you just can't trust > the label. Guides like e.g. this: http://atheros.rapla.net/ > are unreliable. I've bought several > cards, which supposedly have an atheros > chip in them, only to discover they had > something else inside. > > Can you recommend a pccard model that is guaranteed > to have a supported atheros chip inside? > Linksys WMP110 -- ;s =;