From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 04:05:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A9916A4CE for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 04:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pr93.lublin.sdi.tpnet.pl (pr93.lublin.sdi.tpnet.pl [217.97.36.93]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A99D43D1F for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 04:05:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl) Received: (qmail 38768 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Mar 2004 12:05:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:05:26 +0100 From: Michal Pasternak To: Joao Schim Message-ID: <20040308120526.GA38679@pasternak.w.lub.pl> Mail-Followup-To: Joao Schim , dashevil@sympatico.ca, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org References: <20040308063951.VMBB16454.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp.bellnexxia.net> <20040308123841.7be93c08.j.schim@netmaniacs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040308123841.7be93c08.j.schim@netmaniacs.nl> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michal Pasternak List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 12:05:29 -0000 Joao Schim [Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 12:38:41PM +0100]: > I really doubt the gnome or kde guys ever heard of usability. I really doubt you ever tried to create a user-friendly, open, documented software (no matter, GUI or command-line). Try to do that, then come back criticizing other people's work - I wonder if you will be presenting same attitude by that time. > I'm not saying windows is all that, definitely not, but kde/gnome are just > a nightmare for not-so-technical users. There is KDE Quality team, maybe you should submit the usability problems you've found to them. Your opinion can change the situation. Ranting is not an answer. > Besides that i can't really imagine why anybody would still believe that > the 'windows method' of seeing files as icons and such are the way to go. It's actually 'Xerox method', and it is a bit older, than MS DOS, for example. > Lets just take that and put it in a new BSD licensed desktop environment. > Or atleast build a solid API for UI calls system wide. ... or at least stop trolling, while doing nothing useful.