From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 19:01:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 211EF6A1 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22e.google.com (mail-lb0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CBA62BA3 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f174.google.com with SMTP id c11so2285263lbj.33 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T/0+zVnOSef417B7GUTYSds8WRK/6pjRXdoEDroI+NE=; b=IWGTJDHynrQS+Ni7uGa5A+8RRxmN0bI0tNr30EHRdLvYJEu5pWYy9gxPRwMAuJL/a5 Lh9vZhYN8jntfOmX1T9cOSJJT8RFzkbPIFwYXzcV6xVRdFvc69oFc+5uYbAhEtpx5nRz nUCvWwTfRU71G4PzRUM8jtGSbraBWd08xtU/E42uMJvautqJOipDUxecUyJpSxqe8Yxo 3sYRilqoSR4gHLGkeFpjFG6jIAyXW6PGq3PArWKJp8RdCCpgF3/ZBB+IKHj/zn76ghia SK6EwPL1DnraPMk6ormzDm1qV3KybKWSTT2ETuyov4oy2hNtDO44/Z5+meT9VI0kabng Hmdw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.36.73 with SMTP id o9mr11856078laj.88.1408129290519; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.197.107 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53EC1214.9020505@pinyon.org> References: <20140811221043.492110d4@arch> <20140813213718.4814f58c@arch> <53EC1214.9020505@pinyon.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:01:30 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lPctj4YKF8UOk8phzOEs8VprKbE Message-ID: Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? From: Craig Rodrigues To: "Russell L. Carter" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-current Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 19:01:33 -0000 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Russell L. Carter wrote: > > I love this idea. I recently moved back to FreeBSD after 14 years on > debian, and was shocked at how great poudriere + pkg is for > maintaining a consistent set of packages for a cluster of systems. (I > know it's pitiful compared to the cloud, but I've got 3 FreeBSD and 3 > debian-testing atm, and two of those debians are in danger of forced > religious conversion. :-) The main reason I moved to debian in the > first place is I was working in high user-space and I needed "office" > apps (egads) working consistently and reliably through upgrades, and > the ports system then was not up to the job. It is now! Basically, > poudriere + pkg is debian apt-file + apt-cache + apt-get + approx with > the added benefit of site specific, port-specific options. Maybe like > arch? > > So I would be very willing to contribute to this project, if that > makes sense. Wow, it's great to read about your experience. We need to get more experiences like yours mentioned online in blogs, tweets, etc. so that when people go to www.freebsd.org, or do a web search, they can see nice stories like yours. I guess we can move this conversation to the freebsd-doc@ mailing list, as David Chisnall suggested. One complaint I have about the FreeBSD project, is that the core project contributors and developers rely too much on e-mail for communication. This certainly works, and I use it too, but new and casual users getting into FreeBSD may get lost in the maze of FreeBSD mailing lists. It would be nice if more of the core project contributors used the web forums ( http://forums.freebsd.org ), since stuff like that shows up nicely in web searches, and it is easier for newcomers to find stuff, and jump in and contribute to threads, versus mailing lists. -- Craig