From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 28 08:13:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A674616A7DD for ; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from pfepa.post.tele.dk (pfepa.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC5D43D46 for ; Sun, 28 May 2006 08:00:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (0x50a07cfc.naenxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.160.124.252]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B2FFAC044 for ; Sun, 28 May 2006 10:00:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4S80VHW018083; Sun, 28 May 2006 10:00:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "M. Warner Losh" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 28 May 2006 01:19:32 MDT." <20060528.011932.1220016372.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 10:00:31 +0200 Message-ID: <18082.1148803231@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: julian@elischer.org, arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A sort of plan for consoles in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 08:13:53 -0000 In message <20060528.011932.1220016372.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes : >LOG_CONS happens only when it can't sent the message to syslogd(8). >LOG_PERROR will also print it on stderr. LOG_CONS would then >degenerate into LOG_PERROR. No, it would degenerate into the nonexistent LOG_TTY. stderr and /dev/tty are not the same thing, and it is impossible to declare one better than the other: they have different semantics. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.