From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 6 16:17:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from durendal.skynet.be (durendal.skynet.be [195.238.3.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1303437B416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.9] (ip-27.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.27] (may be forged)) by durendal.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.16) with ESMTP id g270CGg15952; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:12:17 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020306222416.GA484@submonkey.net> References: <20020306222416.GA484@submonkey.net> X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 X-Message-Flag: Outlook : A program to spread viri via e-mail. Try Eudora (http://www.eudora.com/), mutt (http://www.mutt.org/), or pine (http://www.washington.edu/pine/). But please, get something other than Outlook. Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:08:24 +0100 To: Ceri , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Typing Injuries Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:24 PM +0000 2002/03/06, Ceri wrote: > I'm currently thinking about this keyboard : > http://www.dvortyboards.com/typematrix2020_info.html I've had Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (CTS) for a while now, although I am currently not suffering excessively. I've done a fair amount of research in this subject over the years, and I've found the ergonomic products available from Alimed to be a real blessing (they normally target the health-care provider market, but you can order most products as a private citizen). See for more info. One of the things I've discovered is that each person responds differently to a Repetitive Stress Injury (RSI). However, of the people that have RSIs related to typing and computer use, it is actually the mouse that is usually the worst offender (lots of horizontal arm and wrist movement combined with lots of vertical finger movement for clicking) and not the keyboard. For people who are actually having problems with the keyboard, using something like the Microsoft Natural keyboard (i.e., rotating the hands so that they are in-line with the wrists, as opposed to being bent outwards) tends to solve only about 5% of the problem. About 90% of the problem tends to be solved by rotating the wrists 45-90 degrees outward, so that the hands are held in a largely vertical orientation. Unfortunately, the Microsoft keyboard doesn't do this, and therefore really provides limited benefit for most people. If you want a keyboard that can support a more vertical orientation for the hands, you need something more like the one found at . Alternatively, you can use a keyboard that is designed to conform to the "bowl-like" shape of movement of the fingers and hands, such as found in the model at . There are also chording keyboards, in which you press one or more keys simultaneously to type letters, words, or phrases, and they have been shown to reduce unnecessary finger movement more than anything else short of getting rid of the keyboard altogether -- Alimed used to sell the "bat" keyboard chording device, but I can't seem to find it on their site. For the mouse, if you have to keep an actual mouse, then you need a proper wrist rest. Myself, I find that there are several different types of pads that you can buy that will attach to the mouse, and help ensure a proper ergonomic position for your hand. There are examples at and , among others. However, for me, I have found that I don't really have much in the way of CTS problems, ever since I switched to a laptop as my primary machine, and I pretty much exclusively use the built-in trackpad instead. Of course, when it comes to building a proper ergonomic office, there is far more to it than just the keyboard or mouse. There is also the monitor (and monitor position), the keyboard position, the chair and chair position, a foot rest, the right desk, etc.... Alimed can help you there, too -- just use their training system at , and that should help you figure out what kinds of devices you need and how they should be properly adjusted. Take care of yourself. Trust me, you do not want to get into a situation where you need devices such as the ones at . While I have not personally needed anything more severe than an elbow brace and a wrist brace, I have known people with Cerebral Palsy that have needed devices more like this, and their life with computers is a real hell -- better than it would be without computers, but still a hell all the same. -- Brad Knowles, Do you hate Microsoft? Do you hate Outlook? Then visit the Anti-Outlook page at and see how much fun you can have. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message